Repost – Two Segway Tours that are no-more

There are two Segway Tours that used to take place in Epcot theme-park. The first is the “Nature Inspired Design Tour” (circa 2010) and the second is the “Keep Moving Forward Tour” (circa 2013) – interestingly, we had the same tour guide on each of these. The “Keep Moving Forward Tour” was very short-lived – less than a year, I think that the “Nature Inspired Design Tour” lasted about 18 months. The end of the “Keep Moving Forward Tour” marked the end of Segway tours at Epcot – we suspect that it became too litigious to keep conducting them (people don’t listen to the safety instructions and you’re on-stage on-Segway with other guests) AND there is a weight limit to the Segways and it’s really not Walt Disney World’s way to tell someone they’re too fat to take part in an activity.


On April 27th 2010, we went over to Epcot for the “new” Nature Inspired Design Segway Tour; so new that it wasn’t listed on WDW’s website.

There are spoilers in this post – so skip it if you’re worried about seeing something you want to be a surprise; although I assume if you’re here at Extra WDW Magic — you want to know what to expect…

Spoilers don’t matter these days, you can’t do the tour – so enjoy our “trip report”

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We had two really good tour guides: Peg & Larry (he was a bit of a clown) – both seemed to really like their jobs at Epcot.

When I made the reservations, the CM was very clear that we had to be there before 8:00 a.m. and that the tour started at 8:15 a.m.; if we weren’t checked in and signed off before 8:00, the tour would start without us. Well, Nick is a bit of a stickler for rules (so am I); we arrived at the Guest Relations next to Spaceship Earth at 7:40. They didn’t give us any papers to sign until nearly 8:00 and the other guests got there at 8:15. Nick noticed that the CM handling all the tours that morning had 8:30 on his sheet as the start time.

What the heck?! Oh well….

The tour began with a video, then training on riding the Segway X2-PTS (I think I have that right, PTS = Personal Transportation System) inside one of the rooms that was used for Epcot’s 25th Anniversary displays. It was a bit nerve-racking and odd at the start – they’re not as immediately intuitive as you might think. I ran over a few cones. But, we both managed to get the hang of it. Although it seemed that there was enough equipment for the tour to handle 15 or so, there were only 5 of us plus Peg & Larry.

We left the area right behind Club Cool and rode the Segways to a backstage area between the Imagination Pavilion and the Land Pavilion.


  • rode Soarin’ after entering through a backdoor,
    • ah ha! now we know how they get celebrities into Soarin’ so quickly, quietly, and easily,
  • rode the Segways around backstage (on pavement and off pavement),
    • saw a lot of shipping containers where they store equipment, saw a lot of extra greenhouses in the back where they stage plant materials,
  • saw some cool stuff behind the Land,
    • including a submarine from 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea & a Jungle Cruise boat – neither in use anymore – they’re held here for use as props during special events inside Epcot
  • did about 20% of the Behind the Seeds Tour with another CM (Emily),
    • I did the full tour in March of 2009, I was a bit surprised when we only did such a little bit of the tour & it didn’t really “meld” into the whole idea of “Nature Inspired Design”
  • rode the Segways a bit more backstage,
    • saw an old helipad
    • saw a staging area for plant materials used in Epcot, including trees planted *just in case* something happens to one of the on-stage trees
    • saw a holding reservoir (built in case they ever have to empty out the Living Seas aquarium really quickly and hold some of the marine life there in an emergency situation)
  • saw some cool stuff behind the Living Seas,
    • see above, plus we saw the holding tank for when the filters are backwashed
  • were met by another CM (Susan from SC) & went inside the LS,
    • she talked about design!
    • example: the shapes inside the Living Seas and the colors used are designed to make you think you’re in an underwater research station
    • example: the Living Seas has won architectural awards based on its design and functionality
    • example: the curved glass (actually acrylic) inside the LS is held in place by water pressure
  • went back outside & over to the “Life Support” area for the LS & met another CM (Bill),
    • learned about how they control the water inside the huge aquarium, Bill was very engaging and engineering-ly excited about what he does
    • they can process the 5,000,000 gallons of salt water contained in the LS aquarium & filter system in 2 hours and 40 minutes
    • the managers can control the valves, filters, outflow, etc… from anywhere in the world with the computer system (kinda surprising when you consider how woefully dim-bulbed some of WDW’s IT stuff is)
  • rode the segways a bit more, and returned to our starting point.

Tidbits – –

  • part of the fee for this tour goes to the Disney Wildlife Conservation Fund (not a bad charity source, just that they don’t tell you that before you go on the tour),
  • you do not get a customized trading pin at this point in time, you get a “The Seas with Nemo & Friends” DWCF pin

Complaint – –

  • only one real complaint (keep in mind that we haven’t done any other organized tours at WDW yet)
    • the storytelling was not cohesive;
      • from the title and what I had read online, we expected the tour to be more about the DESIGN of Future World attractions at Epcot;
      • it wasn’t, it was really about maintaining the artificial environments for both the plants (at the Land) and the animals (at the Living Seas) –
      • while this is a fine thing to do on a tour, the title is a bit misleading, maybe it should be called “managing nature segway tour”? or something else

Would we do it again? – probably, but not necessarily anytime soon

Would we buy our own Segways? – nah, it’s cheaper and easier to just pay to go on tours where you can ride them PLUS we can’t really see how they’d be of any use in day to day life; especially given that several municipalities have banned them

Thanks for reading


Dateline: January 2013.

We arrived at Epcot early for our “Keep Moving Forward Segway Tour” and we really want to say thank-you to two Cast Members who were really on top of their game in terms of helpfulness and friendliness… Mari at Bag Check Security and Robert at the Cast Member turnstile (we went here because we needed to get into the park early)… Thank you for making our morning extra nice!

And, although he was the Tour Guide for the tour before ours, Elton in Guest Relations checked us in with lots of smiles, laughs, and just Disney magic.

Okay, so on to the tour… Disney World’s Description reads (link to webpage)…

Around the World in 2 Hours

See all 11 international pavilions along the 1.3-mile World Showcase Promenade before the park opens.

As day breaks, take off on a guided tour that embraces the inspired design and time-honored traditions of our magnificent pavilions, which include:

  • Canada
  • China
  • France
  • Germany
  • Italy
  • Japan
  • Mexico
  • Morocco
  • Norway
  • United Kingdom
  • United States

Behold Mexico’s mystical step pyramid, take in a replica of Beijing’s stunning Temple of Heaven, and marvel over the intricate mosaic tile work in Morocco. Cross the “Seine” and revel in the romance of Paris as you zip along charming cobblestone streets and admire architecture that transports you to the Belle Epoque of the late 1800s. All this and more awaits you on this enthralling international adventure!

A Private Getaway
Since tours are held before regular park hours, you’ll also have World Showcase all to yourself and be able to move around freely and take photos to your heart’s content.

Beginners are welcome, and vehicle instruction and safety equipment will be provided before you embark on your journey.


Again, who cares…. You can’t book this tour now for love or money

We went to Guest Services to check in for the tour. We knew from nick’s conversation booking the tour that they’ve added breakfast at Sunshine Seasons food court, we were given 3 options and we both chose the full breakfast. Our tour would have breakfast after our Segway training. We wandered outside to wait for our trainer to arrive and for our Guide to finish checking everyone in…

Imagine our surprise when our trainer was Larry (he trained us on our very first Segway Tour – “Nature Inspired Design” in August of 2010 – WDW has stopped doing this tour)…

Our trainer, Larry

And our guide was Ryan from Hawaii (yes, he left Hawaii to move to Florida)…

Ryan, our guide

So, we started out by learning the “history” of this tour and how it has evolved…

  • On February 14th, 2013, the “Epcot Segway Tour” will be 9 years old – since that time, Segway mini-experiences have been added to Innoventions
  • The present incarnation is an hour longer than the previous version
  • Breakfast has been added
  • Listening units (remote devices like most tours use) have been added
  • They didn’t say this, but the training is also more streamlined and practical than when we’ve done other Segway tours

Ryan also told us about how Disney World in general and Epcot in particular are more than theme parks, that Walt was able to incorporate a lot of his ideas about transportation, crowd control, water control, and showcasing new technologies into the Florida Project (strange when you stop and think that Walt Disney died in 1966 and Magic Kingdom opened in 1971. We’ve already learned from the Imagineers that the whole concept of EPCOT Center was kind of dropped after Walt’s death, only to be re-energized in the mid-1970s; yes, we thought it was odd that Ryan kept referring to Walt Disney as though he had actually taken a really active part in Epcot’s development).


Training begins in the small “bubble room” inside Innoventions, Larry demonstrates the basics of operation and of safety (with only 2 or 3 slides!)

Some of our tour-mates
Some of our tour-mates learning to step up onto the Segways… Use your legs not your arms to get up on them!
Cone Slalom - another step in the training, learning maneuverability
Cone Slalom – another step in the training, learning maneuverability

The training was pretty standard.

  • BIG focus on Safety,
  • A few concerns when one of the ladies in our tour group kept running over cones,
  • Learn to get on and off
  • Learn to use your ankles as a pivot point for speeding up, slowing down, going right and left while in motion
  • Learn to go forward, turn left and turn right
  • Learn to slalom and go up and down hills
  • Learn to duck under obstacles
  • Learn to stop suddenly… Because we were going to be out in the crowds and we didn’t want to run down any guests

It was nice that Larry stressed safety in a good way. He also told us that we were in control of our own experience, if we got overconfident or aggressive it was unsafe and we’d be asked to stop. If we didn’t stop, then it was no more tour for us. We also finally understand why riding the Segway can make your feet and legs so doggoned tired… The Segway checks and adjusts its positioning 100x per second and your lower body is constantly readjusting too, while stationary, to keep up with the Segway’s computer processors.


After we finished training, we left Innoventions and went over to Imagination Pavilion and entered backstage. After that we all parked our Segways and went into the Land for breakfast.

We sat around "behind" Sunshine Seasons food court in an area that had been roped off for us... Nora had never noticed this area before - wow! a surprise!
We sat around “behind” Sunshine Seasons food court in an area that had been roped off for us… Nora had never noticed this area before – wow! a surprise!
There was a cart with plastic ware, napkins, condiments, etc... waiting for us.
There was a cart with plastic ware, napkins, condiments, etc… waiting for us.
Breakfast! Scrambled eggs, sausage, bacon, potatoes, french toast, and biscuit
Breakfast! Scrambled eggs, sausage, bacon, potatoes, french toast, and biscuit

The sausage (peeking out from under the biscuit) was better than we remembered. The eggs were worse than we remembered. The bacon was kind of limp and wimpy as remembered. The potatoes had green peppers and onions in them (what’s up with Disney World putting green peppers and onions in the breakfast potatoes, that doesn’t seem very kid friendly to us!). The biscuit was better than some but nothing spectacular. The french toast was surprisingly tasty. Overall, the food was okay… Now we’re all ready to go…


(A lot of the tour information comes from “The Imagineering Field Guide to Epcot at Walt Disney World.” We had given our older copies to Miss B~, as soon as the tour was over, nora went and got a new version at Mouse Gear. We aren’t going to go into exhaustive detail, just share the stories and details that we found most interesting.)

Given that there were people in Mexico and Norway (they’re open to walk through before World Showcase opens because of the Princess Breakfast at Norway), we didn’t stop in these two pavilions, just breezed on through.

China was our first stop… Have you ever noticed the figures on the tops of the buildings in China?

At the end of the eave, Prince Min sits on a chicken
At the end of the eave, Prince Min sits on a chicken

This pavilion represents the Imperial Palace and the Temple of Heaven Park – in other words, it’s the emperor’s place. Gold coloring represents the Emperor, red coloring represents happiness. Anyway, back to the guy on the chicken…

The man seated on the hen on the roof of Nine Dragons Restaurant (and most other buildings) is Prince Min, a 3rd century ruler who was hanged for his cruelty. It is customary to install an effigy of him as a warning to other tyrants. The various animals in line behind him are there to keep him from escaping… From the Imagineering Field Guide

Nora really liked this story, so she did some digging around for more information

  • Figures are placed on the roof eaves to keep away evil spirits, in other words they’re there for protection
  • One story is that Prince Min was so horribly EVIL that he was added to the “monsters” placed on roofs; he’s on a chicken because chickens can’t fly & thus he can’t leave the roof

We were also shown two pairs of “foo dogs” (that’s what westerners called them) also know as “shishi” (that’s what Chinese call them)… They’re guardian lions, always found in pairs (yin and yang).

Male lion outside the Hall of Prayer for Good Harvest...
The male lion outside the Hall of Prayer for Good Harvest…
... his paw rests on a ball representing the world; the male lion protects the structure
… his paw rests on a ball representing the world; the male lion protects the structure
The female lion is always placed to the left of the male if you're entering the doorway
The female lion is always placed to the left of the male if you’re entering the doorway…
... her paw rests on a playful cub on its back; she protects those that dwell inside the structure
… her paw rests on a playful cub on its back; she protects those that dwell inside the structure

When we left China, World Showcase had opened to the general public and there were guests out and in the way! Had to practice that safety stuff. Next stop…

Germany… Did you know that Walt Disney loved Bavarian Architecture?

Example of Bavarian architecture in the Germany Pavilion... Remind you of anything? What about the old Fantasyland in Magic Kingdom?
Example of Bavarian architecture in the Germany Pavilion… Remind you of anything? What about the old Fantasyland in Magic Kingdom? What about the movies Pinocchio and Snow White?

The train in the Germany Pavilion was placed there in 1995 during the Flower and Garden Festival. Perfect tie-in with Walt Disney given his love of trains. When it was removed at the end of the Festival, guests kept asking where it had went – the Imagineers put it back and now it’s here to stay.

The train represents the Romantic Road in Germany...
The train represents the Romantic Road in Germany…

The Romantic Road was a trade route in the Middle Ages – it runs from Füssen to Würzburg. For this Romantic Road, when the plants get too large at the front, they’re moved to the back to preserve perspective.

As you go around World Showcase counter-clockwise, next up is Italy…

Nick really liked the story here, of the Campanile of Saint Mark’s Square (wiki). The Campanile is a bell tower – there are five bells – The largest rang at the beginning and end of the workday, one rang at midday, another rang to summon members to council meetings, a fourth proclaimed a session of the Senate, and the last announced executions.

Venice is rather wet, and a lot of her buildings are sinking, the Campanile collapsed in 1902… and a miracle occurred, the Angel Gabriel fell off the building but landed standing atop the rubble. This was taken as a symbol of strength and perseverance, that same evening, the communal council approved 500,000 lire to rebuild the Campanile.

The angel Gabriel atop St Mark's Campanile
The angel Gabriel atop St Mark’s Campanile

Next, we went out to the Isola del Lago and were able to ride around in a bit of relative freedom and get photos made…

Ryan taking photos of tour guests
Ryan taking photos of tour guests

Skipping the American Adventure, on to Japan…

There were two Imagineering things in the Japan Pavilion that we particularly liked…

Nick particularly liked the story behind the pagoda at the entrance to the pavilion, Disney’s version of the Horyuji Temple in Nara (wiki). We were told that the original still exists in Japan (from the 8th century!); how is that possible? Well, about once a decade it is taken apart completely, all of the parts (no nails or screws, it is all wood and ceramic) are numbered and cleaned and then it is reassembled. Wow…

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Each story represents one of the five elements of the Buddhist universe, from bottom to top: Earth, Water, Fire, Wind, and Heaven

Nora had never really noticed the building/castle at the very back of the Japan Pavilion. It is called the White Heron Castle, built during the feudal period, it is white with blue tile roofs. It also still exists (but we don’t think they take it apart every ten years and clean it!), it is the largest castle in Japan with 83 buildings.

Shirasagi-Jo, a 17th century castle overlooking Hemeji... "finest surviving example of prototypical Japanese castle architecture"
Shirasagi-Jo, a 17th century castle overlooking Hemeji… “finest surviving example of prototypical Japanese castle architecture”

 Morocco is next…

The Morocco pavilion was partly built by and paid for by the Moroccan government, it is incredibly accurate and it took 2 years to build. The king sent his artisans over to do the tilework, sculpting, etc… One gentleman on our tour has been to Morocco, because he was so taken with this pavilion; the real Morocco looks just like this. In fact, there’s a story that one of the International Program Cast Members grew up in the area that this pavilion is modeled after and he says that it’s amazing accurate.

There are layers and layers of pattern in Morocco, the tiled gate (Bab Boujouloud Gate from Fez) defines the separation between the new city and the old city
There are layers and layers of pattern in Morocco, the tiled gate (Bab Boujouloud Gate from Fez) defines the separation between the new city and the old city

The last story that really stuck with us occurs in the imagineering behind one of our favorite spots in Canada…

Victoria Garden in Canada Pavilion
Victoria Gardens in Canada Pavilion

These gardens, which we both really enjoy, are “inspired by the spectacular Butchart Gardens of British Columbia. These gardens are a reminder and a reflection of horticulture as a work of art and a labor of love.”

Robert Butchart manufactured portland cement (digression: cement is not concrete, concrete is what you get when you mix cement, sand, and water), a process that required the mining of limestone. When the limestone mine was done, rather than leave it as an ugly hole in the ground, Jennie Butchart (Robert’s wife) planted gardens to avoid that.

Victoria Gardens modeled on the Butchart Gardens in British Columbia
Victoria Gardens modeled on the Butchart Gardens in British Columbia

After leaving Canada, we returned to Innoventions and received our “tour pin”… it spins!

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There’s a lot of information and detail that we didn’t cover (can’t exactly take notes while riding around Epcot on a Segway, couldn’t even take photos – had to go back for them). Pick up a copy of “The Imagineering Field Guid to Epcot” for more information.

While we enjoyed doing this together, and we’d not mind doing it again… The Wilderness Back Trail Adventure at Fort Wilderness was more to our taste (probably because there’s so much we DON’T know about Fort Wilderness and the flora and fauna there).

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